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css versus tables
 css vs tables: round I. 
    1. benefits to css
 
    2. is full css faster
 
    3. Return on
Investment
 
 
    4. Long Run
Maintenance
 
 
    5. w3c standards
are useless
 
 
    6. structure
and content
 
 
 
 css vs tables round II. 
    7. point:
        tables are for
       tabular data...

     counter point:
       yes, but tables
       make up
       databases.
       Duhhh!!!








    8. Hey Stupid
 
    9. Bandwidth Savings
 
    10. accessibility and
     $4000 wheelchair
     ramps
 
 
 
    11. Spend Time
Learning
 
 
    12. Captured
CSS Flagship
 
 
    13. Selling your
product
 
 
    14. May work well
 
    15. Standards
Merry Go Round
 
 
    16. Extremists
Update
 
 
 
 
  
 
R.O.I.
  Has an independent R.O.I. ever been done on using a
full CSS solution (i.e. css tables) as opposed
to html tables?
  1. RETURN ON INVESTMENT (ROI).....ahhh..this is a good acronym to know.....if we compare a before and after website that uses <table>'s or <div>'s just when is the new fully CSS website going to pay off?

    As you can see, from the previous answer above, the bandwidth argument is less and less because it is IMAGES (.gifs and .jpg) that can take up 50% of the bandwidth anyway. And after the necessary HTML, anchor tags, CSS, and Javascript, the table tags make up only tiny percentage of the bandwidth.

    Thus, since the bandwidth argument is so little, if any at all, switching to CSS will only increase the time for any recovery of your investment of time and money......

    From a business perspective, some have said you need to have 1 or 2 years to recover your investment.....Nonsense, you are not given that much time to prove your idea in the real world.....2 months tops!!!!....Just think all the time and money that could have been spent somewhere else: hardware, marketing, sales, etc. Those can have a better return on investment than 2 years! If you put it into sales, it would be immediate.

  2. Independent ROI (Return on Investment)
    Has there been multiple independent reports that show an actual CODE comparison on this full CSS integration method? Do you know of anyone personally who actually has a ROI on their own implementation? ANSWER: No and no

    TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) - What about the cost to move a site over to full CSS? Do you pay designers more that know how to do this? Is there a breakdown of hours in cost savings?






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